Curse

Ravinsild · Nov 12, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15

I got this for an idea, but I don't know if you think it is any good:

W/R

16 Axe
3 Str
12 BM

Skills:
Counterattack
Penetrating Blow
Poisonous Bite
Feral Lunge
Predator's Pounce
Heal As One
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Equipment:
What I have, which is max char hide with 1 survivor insignia on chest
1 axe that is maxed with +30 health/19% chance for penetrating armor for 20%/15%+ Damage while in stance
And a shield that is -5 vs Physical Dmg (20% of the time) and i think +7 armor vs physical attack or something, and it's maxed, i think

So what do you think?

I was thinking of the alternate skillset:

heal as one
charm animal
poisonous bite
feral lunge
predator's pounce
call of haste
brutal strike
feral aggression/troll unguent/endure pain/heal signet/rez signet

Plus I need help with a running build, since I'm warrior I can't use expertise, i was thinking of this:

Charge
Rush
Sprint
Stormchaser
Endure Pain
Heal Signet
Troll Unguent
Balanced Stance

What do you think? I want to make a build that can run droks for free, but with my current build (not that one, it's Zaioshon's Haste/Dodge/Sprint/Stormchaser/Endure Pain/Heal Signet/Troll Unguent/Balanced Stance) i'm having trouble just running from asclon to LA. I just want to run people for free, is all, but it's hard and i don't think i have the right build, or equipment. I'm pretty poor right now, and i want to focus on my animal build first, then focus on my running build. Any suggestions on Runes/Insignias/etc for either? I can eventually get more money, by farming, with my pet, and guildies. Thanks in advance for all the help!

Draginvry · Nov 12, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravinsild

16 Axe
9 Str
10 BM

Ditch the Str for more Beast Mastery. And you should ditch Feral Lunge for Call of Haste. Either you or your pet need IAS, if not both.

iridescentfyre · Nov 12, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Where do you get the energy to use an entire bar of spammable energy-based skills? Rangers can do it because they have a larger energy pool, +1 regen more than a Warrior, and the Expertise attribute on top of that. You've also deprived yourself of Ranger runes by running this on a Warrior. The first two builds are doing nothing that require they be run on a Warrior at all, I recommend just making a Ranger.

On top of that, I've yet to see even a full-Ranger beast mastery build that did enough damage to even compare to a Warrior's DPS with a good skill set.

As for a running build, check out this article. I'm personally no pro runner myself, but that build could easily do the Ascalon -> Lion's Arch run, and probably Lion's Arch -> ToA -> Sanctum Cay if people are still doing that one. Bravo on wanting to give free runs, very altruistic of you.

Ravinsild · Nov 13, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

Armor with the insignias that add energy, and health, too. A little of each one.

Plus counterattack gets you energy.

What about this build:

tiger's fury
penetrating blow
counterattack
ferocious strike
predator's pounce
comfort animal
charm animal
rez signet

iridescentfyre · Nov 13, 2007, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Well if you're doing it just because you find it fun, by all means do so. But if you're really going for effectiveness, I still have to ask why not just make a Beast Mastery ranger?

As for energy, having ~5 more from Radiant insignia is not the same as energy management. Counterattack with 3 Strength returns 3 energy after spending 5 on the attack itself. That's not e-management either.

Ravinsild · Nov 13, 2007, 07:03 AM // 07:03

I see. Well, yeah it's mostly for fun. I don't know what warrior builds are "most effective". I imagine some sort of tank, but I wouldn't know what combo/build/etc...

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 13, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Not tanking mate, don't get that idea. Effective builds are ones that pwn stuff, like [skill=text]Dragon Slash[/skill] and [skill=text]Eviscerate[/skill]

Ravinsild · Nov 13, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Well maybe I can invent my own PWN build, yes? And then I can post it, and you guys can says yes or no. But I don't have to use a pet, I just like to. So I have 2 pet builds, 1 running build that kind of sux, because I can't really heal myself too good, and 1 PWN build.

Pwn Build:

Warrior/Any

PvE

16 Axe Mastery
12 Strength
3 Tactics

Skills:
Eviscerate
Agonizing Chop
Executioner's Strike
Axe twist
Beserker Stance/Flail
Endure Pain
Healing Signet
Ressurection Signet

Running Build:

Warrior/Ranger

Strength 16
Wildnerness Survival 12
Tactics 3

PvE

Skills:
Charge
Rush
Sprint
Stormchaser
Natural Stride
Endure Pain
Troll Unguent
Balanced Stance/Heal Signet

Pet Build 1:

Warrior/Ranger

PvE

Axe Mastery: 16
Beast Mastery: 12
Tactics: 3

Triple Chop
Dismember
Executioner's Strike
Whirlwind Attack
Never Rampage Alone
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Pet Build 2:

Warrior/Ranger

PvE

Axe Mastery-16
Strength 3
Beast Mastery 12

Tiger's Fury
Penetrating Blow
Counterattack
Ferocious Strike
Predator's Pounce
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Squishy ftw · Nov 13, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravinsild

Well maybe I can invent my own PWN build, yes? And then I can post it, and you guys can says yes or no. But I don't have to use a pet, I just like to. So I have 2 pet builds, 1 running build that kind of sux, because I can't really heal myself too good, and 1 PWN build.

Pwn Build:

Warrior/Any

PvE

16 Axe Mastery
12 Strength
3 Tactics

Skills:
Eviscerate
Agonizing Chop
Executioner's Strike
Axe twist
Beserker Stance/Flail
Endure Pain
Healing Signet
Ressurection Signet

Drop endure pain and use flail,then this build is quite alright with me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravinsild

Running Build:

Warrior/Ranger

Strength 16
Wildnerness Survival 12
Tactics 3

PvE

Skills:
Charge
Rush
Sprint
Stormchaser
Natural Stride
Endure Pain
Troll Unguent
Balanced Stance/Heal Signet

Drop some running stances, charge and sprint should be enough to maintain a constant speedboost. add some utitily skills instead of all those other running skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravinsild

Pet Build 1:

Warrior/Ranger

PvE

Axe Mastery: 16
Beast Mastery: 12
Tactics: 3

Triple Chop
Dismember
Executioner's Strike
Whirlwind Attack
Never Rampage Alone
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Pet Build 2:

Warrior/Ranger

PvE

Axe Mastery-16
Strength 3
Beast Mastery 12

Tiger's Fury
Penetrating Blow
Counterattack
Ferocious Strike
Predator's Pounce
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Meh, both builds are just..bad.. If you find them fun to play, go ahead. But if you want an actually effective build, drop the pet.

Aris the Accurate · Nov 13, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

dont take flail unless you have some sort of kd to keep target still while you unload your adren..frenzy is for evis

you want a good W/R build..here you go. (I know it dosn't have an ias but no build is perfect =/)

Melendru's Soldier
W/R
14 sword
10 strength
10 wilderness survival

Apply poision
Sever
Gash
Sun and Moon
Sprint
Troll Ungent
Melendru's Resiliance
Ressurection Signet

you want fun...run around ab wth a Warrior with a 10 energy pip..THATS fun

Squishy ftw · Nov 13, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate

dont take flail unless you have some sort of kd to keep target still while you unload your adren

I can't really agree on that one, his builds are for PvE, enemies in PvE are too dumb to kite so IMO flail is the best IAS available.

Stormlord Alex · Nov 13, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate

dont take flail unless you have some sort of kd to keep target still while you unload your adren..frenzy is for evis

Flail >>>>> PvE. Simple truth.
And he's on about PvE builds...

Sir Pandra Pierva · Nov 13, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

In pve

cyclone axe bonetties ftw<_<

Ravinsild · Nov 14, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Okay, so the pet builds are bad, but they are really just for fun. As for my other build, the PWN build, I invented it myself, is it any good? And why is flail better than beserker?

Jaigoda · Nov 14, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Because it doesnt end on the use of a skill, and because (most) monsters don't kite in PvE, so you rarely feel the negative effects of it.

iridescentfyre · Nov 14, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Everything Jaigoda said, plus Flail is an adrenal skill and thus can be spammed easily with barely any ranks of Strength. As long as you hit four times during its duration, its ready to go again before it ends. The present iteration of Berserker's Stance has a crazy 20 second recharge. There's no need to punish yourself like that.

Ravinsild · Nov 15, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Ah, I see now, yeah I think I'll go flail. It's too bad beserker sucks, it's such a cool ability. I like frenzy, too, haha.

Kale Ironfist · Nov 15, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

Everything Jaigoda said, plus Flail is an adrenal skill and thus can be spammed easily with barely any ranks of Strength. As long as you hit four times during its duration, its ready to go again before it ends. The present iteration of Berserker's Stance has a crazy 20 second recharge. There's no need to punish yourself like that.

You wouldn't want to run it at low Strength, since that's going to take away your adrenaline gains more than a higher Strength spec would.